I waited for a while to say anything about The Fappening because it is pretty complicated. Not that theft is complicated. It isn’t. And this is purely a case of theft. What is complicated is the back and forth I have seen because I can see elements of sense in a lot of the different arguments. I have been all swirly about it so I am going to just write down my thoughts and see what happens by the end of it.
- To all the people who say “you shouldn’t have put pictures on the Internet blah blah blah” – STFU. This is pointless and ridiculous. The people whose pics were stolen had an expectation of privacy, just like you do when you email someone, or any of the other weird crap you do. So stop posting pics of Emma Watson and talking about how smart and classy she is. Well, she does seem smart and classy, but that doesn’t mean that the women whose pics were leaked are dumb and slutty. Jackasses.
- Do you know who Justin Verlander is? He’s the Detroit Tigers pitcher who is naked in some of the Kate Upton pics. Never heard of him? Didn’t notice? No? I didn’t see anyone else saying anything about him either. I am not sure if that’s because it doesn’t fit the narrative or what. I just found it weird that it was never mentioned in any of the places I read (ugh even 4chan).
- There is more to this than people think. I read one thing that made a lot of sense to me. I think it was actually on 4Chan (note, I hate and am terrified of certain things so me going to 4Chan is always a dangerous trip!) and the gist of it was this: There is/was a network of people who go out of their way to find nudes of celebs. They are currency. And the way you get “in” to the club is by coming up with a new pic that they don’t have. I guess it is like Magic: The Gathering for perverts. Supposedly the guy who dumped the batch went rogue and published everyone’s. That would explain why he had the ones that the woman had deleted as how he had so many. Something to think about.
- This ridiculous site (superficialgallery.com) has brute force protection. WTF, Apple? Nothing? Not even a lockout? Pathetic. You should have to pay everyone who was hacked a sum of money per day until you prove the stolen pics are gone from the Internet.
- ALL the pics. Not just the celebs. I am sure Jennifer Lawrence is legit horrified that those pics got out. All of the people are. They were meant to be private. But from what I read, JLaw is going to go after anyplace that publishes the pics ever again. Waste of time and an example of privilege run amok. You think you are going to be able to sue some server in China or Ghana or something? Your pics are out. They will never come back. Use your clout and your celebrity to get things changed for you AND THE THOUSANDS OF NOBODIES WHOSE LIVES WERE RUINED BY THE SAME THING. Make the companies up the security and look seriously at all your cloud based services. Do they have something like this in their terms and conditions? If they do maybe you should not use them.
APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO. (actual iCloud T’s and C’s)
- Maybe it’s time for there to be some sort of lawsuit against the whole concept of Terms and Conditions. What if when you sign up for Google you are agreeing to let them come to your house and give you a colonoscopy? Maybe you already did. Where would you even go to look? I mean, I always wonder if it is legally binding if when bowling alleys or roller rinks or any place that has lockers with no locks have a sign that says MANAGEMENT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST OR STOLEN ITEMS! Can that be legal? Could they put up a sign that says they aren’t responsible if one of their employees murders you? How much power does a sign have? Couldn’t we have a law that says the service provider has to tell you what they are going to give you if your stuff gets hacked. In dollars. A lot of dollars. There is precedent for this.
- Why don’t you have to have two passwords to get into a site? Like, so you put in your username and your first password then you go to another page with a second password. Maybe put a captcha page in between. That would be safe as crap because if you got anything wrong you would have to go back to the beginning. Heh. Now that I think about it, maybe I will make it so you have to do that in order to comment on the site. Then at least I would have an excuse for nobody commenting.
- Finally, to the old crappers who “don’t understand” why someone take naked pictures of themselves – you stfu, too – Because if you are saying that, you are probably right around 40. And there weren’t any digital cameras when you looked really good. When you looked the best you were ever gonna get, you either had to take a Polaroid (which always seem scummy no matter what) or hope the guy at the drugstore wouldn’t look at them when they put them in the envelope. Seriously, unless you were banging one of those guys or girls who draws the pictures of people in court, you were NOT going to get a good pic of yourself back then. And selfies didn’t exist because if you took one you had to wait two weeks to get them back AND it cost money AND you always got doubles for some reason AND why would you take a picture of yourself when there was so much investment tied up in it. Face it, if you looked like Jennifer Lawrence or the Wolverine guy or Brad Pitt or whoever you would want a record of it.
OK, so what have we learned? Well, based on what I know about ACTUAL security (I work in a field that has to deal with HIPAA) I think we should impose security thresholds for people who hold onto Personal Information (formerly known as PI which used to be something you HID from the Internet) that are the same as we do for medical records. And if you are holding on to people’s medical info and you get hacked, YOU pay the fine. What kind of fines? Let’s peek!
- $800,000 HIPAA Settlement in Medical Records Dumping Case – June 23, 2014
- Data Breach Results in $4.8 Million HIPAA Settlements – May 7, 2014
- Concentra Settles HIPAA Case for $1,725,220 – April 22, 2014
- QCA Settles HIPAA Case for $250,000 – April 22, 2014
- WellPoint Settles HIPAA Security Case for $1,700,000 – July 11, 2013
- Shasta Regional Medical Center Settles HIPAA Privacy Case for $275,000 – June 13, 2013
- Idaho State University Settles HIPAA Security Case for $400,000 – May 21, 2013
- Massachusetts Provider Settles HIPAA Case for $1.5 Million – September 17, 2012
- Alaska DHSS Settles HIPAA Security Case for $1,700,000 – June 26, 2012
- HHS settles HIPAA case with BCBST for $1.5 million – March 13, 2012
Apple makes a lot of money off of people. They provide services in order to sell hardware. So as long as you have all their gadgets you get all this other stuff. And they didn’t bother to drop a lockout function onto their iCloud login page? Well what if they could get fined PER IMAGE that they lost and then be liable for civil suits and damages? You think they would have made things a little more secure?
I do.
Whoa now! Bringing age into this was completely unnecessary! YOU may not have any reason to nude selfie, that doesn’t mean the rest of us aren’t rocking 40 and greater. :}~
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My bod is fabulous… http://bit.ly/1BbhHhB
::starts slow clap::
Why don’t you ever fast clap? Too much pot?
Hey guy. I had a digital camera when I was 15. It was the second thing I ever bought with my own money. If you take a nude photo, it will eventually end up on the internet. This was true in 1996, and it’s true today.
You guys don’t know that I’m not Justin Verlander. Technically.
As a more than 40-year old, I object the hell out of the last item but fully support the rest. Ageism, not okay. Don’t jump to conclusions, and if you’re going to, raise that to 55-60.
Girl you don’t think I know my target demo? Generation X 4EVA!!!!!!! Easy to enrage, quick to forget.
Wait, wtf. Why am I getting dragged into this comment? I’m the oldest one here!
Yes. GenX foeva! And my nudes from my gameboy will NEVER show up on the internet! http://bit.ly/1BbhWcD
Dear Acadia: Watch it with insulting the hotties over 40 but yes. Yes, this x infinity. You have (somewhat) restored my faith in humanity.
I went to jezebel.com to see if I could get some further insight but to be honest they terrify me.
What the guy in the mask said and also what StayFray said. 🙂
Holla
I said the BEST you would ever look. Not that you look bad now. Also, if any of you would not want to stuff your forty year old “I didn’t read that bullet point very closely but got mad anyway” brains into your 21 year old body then my apologies.
*shakes fist and makes a mix tape*
If a crappy, er, fine and upstanding, website like this can figure out internet security, why couldn’t Apple?
And for the record, I never looked good enough for anyone to want naked pictures.
I think we were made with parts of our bodies we could not naturally see on purpose. *throws away taint pics*
I’m willing to bet most of those settlement were class action so nobody who got harmed got anything. (the lawyers got rich never fear!)
I was impressed how forthright you were in point one and I agree but only because people were moralizing or excusing the theft just because it was “in the cloud”. Its still a super valid point. If it is converted to bits and leaves your control you rolls the dice and sometimes you loose. This isn’t a moral but it should be common sense ,especially to digital natives.
True enough.
While the ladies are enraged about the 40 over / under comment I have a grievance with “#7 Why don’t you have to have two passwords to get into a site?”. Apple/iCloud does has multi-factor authentication. Slutty people are just too lazy to turn it on most of the time (and non-slutty people too i guess).
Two passwords is way better than texting your phone. Whenever I mug someone I also kidnap them and make them log into their bank AND put in the text code. With double passwords, I assume I would have to let them go.
This is the best thing I’ve read about this. I’m so impressed that I’m going to send you my nude selfies so you can judge my 40-something hotness for yourself.
I’m really glad there wasn’t an Internet to speak of when I was in college.
I agree, by the way, that this is the best thing I have read about this too. So kudos to you, sir.
I think one of the issues is that we have a weird definition of other peoples sexual desire. Why wouldn’t we think Laurence or Dunst would want to turn on their sexual partners with some private pics? Cause WE wouldn’t do it?
Ah… If you wouldn’t do it, you are in the minority. Super Cereal. I am 43, and even though we may not have had Cellphone cameras when I was a kid, we DID have VHS and 8mm tape cameras.
And how is that different that today? Not much at all. Well, besides the fact that leaving your personally produced XXX “unsecured” only meant leaving the tape in the Living room VHS player for your dad or mom to find it, NOT A NEWS BLOG OR A IMAGE AGGREGATOR website…
I am not going to say “we all ” have taken nudes, because that’s like saying “we are all reasonable, intelligent, and caring people”; it just ain’t true. But, i will say that a large amount of the people do take nudes; hey why not? You’re close with somebody, you miss him/her, and you wanna surprise them? Hell, I didn’t have a cell phone with a camera until I was married, and yes, the wife and I have sent each other pics. Big whoop. Two consenting adults swap nudes; call the cops.
So why can’t highly attractive female stars do that? Why can’t they show their affection by sending a boob pic to their beau? cause the world sucks? cause there’s no privacy? Because iCloud refuses to use a two step verification process?
The fix? Criminalize the exploitation. From the iCloud hacker, all the way down to the guy who posts a nude pic of his ex girlfriend on a revenge site. Jail time. Hell, if you want, police, you can even bust in their doors with your Surplus SWAT armored vehicle. It’ll give the cops something to do when marijuana is legalized.
Because posting nudes of somebody without their knowledge or permission is not only wrong and skeezy, but illegal. People that post these images should NOT feel a sense of accomplishment, or revenge, or even an erection. They should be aware that they are breaking the law and they will be caught and charged to the fullest extent of the law.
And not the “REAL” law, but the RIAA/MPAA,”sure-you-only-downloaded-12-songs-but-we-are-suing-you-for-a-million-bucks” Law.
Cause screw you.
Also, I think that Justin Verlander is a slut. He should have known better. Twitter campaign?
Oddly .. I’m in my 40s and understand why they enjoyed taking the pictures and videos of themselves … and none of my younger friends get it at all
I basically love this post and everyone who commented because it has reminded me that not everybody is a skeezy gross jerk who does creepy things online to other people’s detriment and without a thought in their creepy heads.
*creeps*
I just wrote an awesome comment, then accidentally hit the back button and now its gone. I’m gonna go jump off a bridge now. cya
I HOPE YOU ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE BACK BUTTON WHEN YOU HIT THE WATER!
🙁
I really do hate it when tha